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Dawkins on morality and responsibility

Richard Dawkins on morality and responsibility:

Retribution as a moral principle is incompatible with a scientific view of human behaviour. As scientists, we believe that human brains, though they may not work in the same way as man-made computers, are as surely governed by the laws of physics. When a computer malfunctions, we do not punish it. We track down the problem and fix it...

Why don't we laugh at a judge who punishes a criminal, just as heartily as we laugh at Basil Fawlty? ... Isn't the murderer or the rapist just a machine with a defective component? Or a defective upbringing? Defective education? Defective genes?

Concepts like blame and responsibility are bandied about freely where human wrongdoers are concerned. ... But doesn't a truly scientific, mechanistic view of the nervous system make nonsense of the very idea of responsibility, whether diminished or not? Any crime, however heinous, is in principle to be blamed on antecedent conditions acting through the accused's physiology, heredity and environment. Don't judicial hearings to decide questions of blame or diminished responsibility make as little sense for a faulty man as for a Fawlty car?

Why is it that we humans find it almost impossible to accept such conclusions? Why do we vent such visceral hatred on child murderers, or on thuggish vandals, when we should simply regard them as faulty units that need fixing or replacing? Presumably because mental constructs like blame and responsibility, indeed evil and good, are built into our brains by millennia of Darwinian evolution. Assigning blame and responsibility is an aspect of the useful fiction of intentional agents that we construct in our brains as a means of short-cutting a truer analysis of what is going on in the world in which we have to live. My dangerous idea is that we shall eventually grow out of all this and even learn to laugh at it, just as we laugh at Basil Fawlty when he beats his car. But I fear it is unlikely that I shall ever reach that level of enlightenment.

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DJ Hannibal wrote:

Ironhead Haynes' Nine Commandments

1. It's okay to call hooters "knockers" and sometimes "snack trays."
2. It is wrong to be French.
3. It's okay to put all bad people in a giant meat grinder.
4. Lawyers: see rule three.
5. It is okay to drive a gas guzzler if it helps you get babes.
6. Everyone should car pool but me.
7. Bring back the word "stewardesses"
8. Synchronized Swimming is not a sport.
9. Mudwrestling is a sport.

∴ DJ Hannibal | 10-Jan-2006 6:15pm est | #8970

Joe Grossberg (http://www.joegrossberg.com) wrote:

Why don't we laugh at a judge who punishes a criminal, just as heartily as we laugh at Basil Fawlty? ... Isn't the murderer or the rapist just a machine with a defective component? Or a defective upbringing? Defective education? Defective genes?

Yes, but by punishing them, we (1) temporarily or permanently remove this person from society (2) influence that defectiveness by pressuring them to change their behavior and (3) discourage other borderline-defective people from doing the same.

Dawkins's hypothetical premises are not incompatible with the value of a justice system.

∴ Joe Grossberg | 11-Jan-2006 1:20pm est | http://www.joegrossberg.com | #8973

Keith (http://keithdevens.com/) wrote:

Dawkins's hypothetical premises are not incompatible with the value of a justice system.

Indeed, but they highlight the incompatibility of worldviews like his with any coherent theory of justice, morality, or responsibility.

Keith | 11-Jan-2006 3:27pm est | http://keithdevens.com/ | #8977

Ay Uaxe wrote:

I briefly wondered why you had no comment on the "front page" of this entry--I'm not surprised that you were just giving Dawkins the opportunity to hoist himself on his own pitard and a particularly comical pitard it is. I send my broken, malfunctioning toaster to a crusher or some other disposal facility. I propose that we serve the purposes of justice, morality, and objective, mechanistic determinism by sending child molesters, murderers, and persons who deal hard drugs to juveniles and maybe some others to the same crusher my busted toaster will go through. I don't give the toaster 10 years of re-tries and minute examinations to determine whether I'm the one making a mistake when sparks and smoke come out every time I plug the thing in--I get rid of the thing before it burns more than toast and don't look back on my way to get another. That'll fix 'em and for good!

∴ Ay Uaxe | 12-Jan-2006 12:36am est | #8983

Keith (http://keithdevens.com/) wrote:

Indeed, but they highlight the incompatibility of worldviews like his with any coherent theory of justice, morality, or responsibility.

I should have pointed out, of course, that this includes a theory of justice or morality that would enable us to label such people as "defective". So, at best, his argument is incomplete. At worst, it begs the question.

Keith | 12-Jan-2006 1:02am est | http://keithdevens.com/ | #8985

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