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Cox & Forkum: The Kerry Draft

Cox & Forkum: The Kerry Draft. "John Kerry's use of a trumped-up draft scare is sleazy enough as it is. Turns out it's hypocritical, too."

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Keith Gaughan (http://talideon.com/) wrote:

Comparing compusory national service to the draft is a bit harsh. There's a lot of countries out there that have it and aren't going to war any time soon.

∴ Keith Gaughan | 21-Oct-2004 9:39am est | http://talideon.com/ | #5967

Keith Gaughan (http://talideon.com/) wrote:

And from the German friends I have, they think it's a good thing, whether they end up in the Army, Navy, Luftwaffe (the officer's club, as it's nicknamed), or just doing community service.

∴ Keith Gaughan | 21-Oct-2004 9:41am est | http://talideon.com/ | #5968

Adam Vandenberg (http://flangy.com/) wrote:

http://www.davidrhenderson.com/articles/0199_thankyou.html

This is an article about the end of the (military) draft, and the last small section is the clincher. Do the results apply to a non-military draft? Quite possibly: there would be a huge time commitment, even if the chance of death wasn't there.

High school students? At least an armed service is going to lay on the discipline. How is a feel-good national service plan going to manage everyone without incurring a HUGE taxpayer cost?

I had some "volunteer" requirements for National Honor Society in high school, and we all got them done, but it wasn't a lot of hours and could be knocked out in a couple of weekends. And we all wanted to do it, more or less.

∴ Adam Vandenberg | 21-Oct-2004 10:31am est | http://flangy.com/ | #5969

Keith Gaughan (http://talideon.com/) wrote:

Here's some of what goes on in Germany: http://info.utas.edu.au/docs/ahugo/NCYS/first/1-Germany.html

∴ Keith Gaughan | 22-Oct-2004 8:54am est | http://talideon.com/ | #5991

Keith Gaughan (http://talideon.com/) wrote:

Sidenote: just in case anybody misunderstands me, military service is conscription, but you have the option of doing the community work as an alternative if you don't want to be conscripted.

∴ Keith Gaughan | 22-Oct-2004 8:57am est | http://talideon.com/ | #5992

Keith Gaughan (http://talideon.com/) wrote:

And an article on getting rid of it, to replace the current army with a wholly professional one: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1087140,00.html

∴ Keith Gaughan | 22-Oct-2004 8:59am est | http://talideon.com/ | #5993

Keith (http://keithdevens.com/) wrote:

Comparing compusory national service to the draft is a bit harsh.

Indeed they're not the same, but the fact remains that despite all that Democrats are doing to scare people with the threat of a draft, Democrats are the only ones who've proposed such a thing. Charlie Rangle, for instance, co-sponsored a bill in the house to bring back the draft, and in one of the most disgusting political displays I can imagine voted against his own bill. Kerry himself has proposed a "national service" of some kind and is now clearly trying to hide it.

I'd like to mention that I'm not even necessarily against compulsory military service or a national service requirement of some kind in principle, though in practice you're much better off with a volunteer force. Cumpulsory service is probably more necessary for smaller countries, such as Israel, for example, which does have mandatory military service.

Keith | 22-Oct-2004 4:06pm est | http://keithdevens.com/ | #6002

Keith Gaughan (http://talideon.com/) wrote:

I'm not going to argue over who did what because that's quite seperate, I was just commenting on the cartoon, which unfairly compares compares compulsory community service with the draft.

I agree, however, with the last paragraph of the comment.

∴ Keith Gaughan | 22-Oct-2004 6:28pm est | http://talideon.com/ | #6008

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