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Daily link icon Wednesday, October 6, 2004

The VP debate

Unlike the first debate, I don't have anything much to say about tonight's debate myself, but I'd like to point to stuff they're saying at PoliPundit. Lorie has my favorite quote though:

Was Edwards just terribly overrated before and was so successful as a lawyer because he got some really great cases to work , or has he just lost his touch? Maybe the tactics that work on North Carolina juries when you are trying to get money from a big insurance company for an injured child just don’t work so well when trying to make the case that a liberal Vietnam war protester from Massachusetts is the best choice to protect Americans from terrorists.

Ha.

Update: Also see David Ellis' comments at Wunderkinder, especially the third comment

Update: Power Line:

Tonight's vice presidential debate featured two superb performances. Unfortunately for John Edwards, they were delivered by the incumbent and by moderator Gwen Ifill. Give Edwards credit for a good college try.

Ouch!

Ifill was good. When the first question was kind of a stinger for Cheney, I thought "uh oh", but then she was equally tough on both sides, so it's all good (better, actually). Anyway, Glenn Reynolds has a roundup of reviews of the debate.

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ideoplastos (http://www.ideoplastos.net) wrote:

WHAT?! Do you honestly think Ifill did a good job?
Come on, someone else back me up.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Pu...rticles/000/000/004/732kepzz.asp?pg=2

Round 18: Without saying the words "Bush" or "Kerry," talk about why you're better than your opponent.
What is happening here? The next question from Ifill might as well be: Describe your plans for handling the Sudan using words of no more than three syllables which do not contain the letter "e". This isn't My Word. Edwards breaks the stupid rule by saying Kerry's name--twice.
Round to Jim Lehrer

Round 19: What's wrong with a little flip-flop every now and then?
Another unbelievable question from Ifill. Edwards lists a great number of Bush-Cheney "flip-flops." The problem here is that this argument runs counter to their main avenue of attack: That Bush is too strong-headed and ideological. Cheney lists the Kerry litany, which is more strategically valuable. They both look punched out.
Round to Cheney

Round 20: How will you bridge the political divide in the next four years?
Ifill directs the question to Edwards. He tells her she's wrong, that it's Cheney's question. She insists she isn't wrong. Fifteen seconds into Edwards's answer, Ifill realizes that she is, in fact, wrong. Just to be clear: The problem with Gwen Ifill isn't that she's politically biased--it's that in her choice of questions and handling of the format, she is very nearly incompetent tonight.

Cheney talks about his Democratic friends from when he was in Congress. In the funniest moment I've seen in a debate, he suggests that Zell Miller's keynote address at the Republican convention was a good example of bipartisanship. Best inside joke ever.
Round to Cheney

∴ ideoplastos | 6-Oct-2004 4:10pm est | http://www.ideoplastos.net | #5806

Keith (http://keithdevens.com/) wrote:

Maybe I should have elaborated. Ifill was generally good. Most of the time she asked tough questions, and she was tough on both sides (she showed no bias, as far as I noticed). A minority of her questions were dumb or could have been better. And she did make a mistake on that one question of forgetting who went first towards the end. She's human.

Keith | 6-Oct-2004 5:08pm est | http://keithdevens.com/ | #5809

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