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The drug war's relation to the war on terror

I'm watching a special program on Fox news about how horrible our borders are. One of the fascinating things they mentioned is that smugglers charge $5000 to smuggle Mexicans in, but $50,000 to smuggle other foreigners in, particularly people from the middle east. The person they were interviewing made this very common-sensical statement: "Why do you think someone would pay $50,000 to come to America illegally? To get a job at a 7/11?" Or maybe they're all just rich businessmen who couldn't get a visa...

We haven't been able to win our "war on drugs" or solve our illegal immigration problem... how can we possibly expect to keep ourselves safe from terrorists and WMDs? I've been saying this for a while, but it seems like we're going to need to experience another attack before we get serious. There are dozens (hundreds?) of "sleeper cells" here, and they'll probably attack in concert. The next attack, whenever that happens, will probably make us look fondly back at September 11th.

It's been 2 and a half years. Why haven't we built a huge honking wall across our borders?

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Arnaud wrote:

Probably because a wall wouldn't solve anything.

∴ Arnaud | 23-Feb-2004 3:37am est | #3979

Keith (http://keithdevens.com/) wrote:

How wouldn't a wall (with appropriate surveillance and counter-measures available) solve anything?

Keith | 23-Feb-2004 9:22am est | http://keithdevens.com/ | #3980

Arnaud wrote:

Because a country cannot shut itself like an oyster and hope all the problems will go away. Like an ostrich which it head in the ground "if I don't see the problem then there is noi problem".

∴ Arnaud | 23-Feb-2004 1:39pm est | #3982

Keith (http://keithdevens.com/) wrote:

It has nothing to do with America "shutting itself like an oyster". This is absolutely not classic isolationism, but rather "controlled access". We must be able to control who comes into the country, or there's no chance of protecting ourselves from terrorists. I don't understand... what part of this do you disagree with?

Keith | 23-Feb-2004 2:17pm est | http://keithdevens.com/ | #3983

b wrote:

Because that could only happen effectively in fantasyland.

∴ b | 23-Feb-2004 5:12pm est | #3986

Keith (http://keithdevens.com/) wrote:

Ok, 'b', do you care to offer arguments as to why you believe building a wall to protect our borders would be impossible? I mean, things like the great wall of China notwithstanding, you may be right, but giving reasons would be more likely to convince me than dismissing it out of hand.

Keith | 23-Feb-2004 5:15pm est | http://keithdevens.com/ | #3987

3shadow4 wrote:

The reason they pour across the border is because we want them to. Peroid! An impenetrable border is vastly easy to create and maintain. Try sneaking from USSR into Poland during the cold war...No way, can't happen. I could go on and on with examples all through history of how easy it is to keep people from going where you don't want them. All these illegals couldn't walk across the border and right into Fort Knox...why..??? Because we don't want them to. This is not and issue about a border, never has been, never will be.

∴ 3shadow4 | 23-Feb-2004 6:17pm est | #3990

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