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The boxcutters kid

If this kid goes to jail, gets fined, or generally gets any retribution for what he did, I'll be very mad. I think this kid's a hero. Heatwole's an ordinary citizen trying to do his duty to point out our weaknesses, and should be commended.

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Roy wrote:

I think his idea was great, but executed totally wrong. He broke the law, period, so he should face the appropriate consequences. You can't let him off because his intentions were good. No one knew of his intentions, therefore no one could truly say if they were good or bad.

Don't worry, he will get a job eventually working for security and all will be well... Smiley winking I think "hero" is a bit of a stretch though.

∴ Roy | 20-Oct-2003 10:37pm est | #3123

Keith (http://keithdevens.com/) wrote:

No one knew of his intentions

Well, he sent notice to the FBI or whoever beforehand detailing his intentions, and included with the materials he left on the plane were details about exactly when they were left, what was included, and why he left them.

Anyway, I'm all for the rule of law, but I think this is a special case. It's like the Boston Tea Party... no one got hurt, but they sent a very big message.

Plus, the very fact that he was able to do what he did shows that our government or the airlines or whoever isn't doing their job, and they need outside policing. Reporters frequently do things like this, where they bypass the fences on nuclear facilities, or bring depleted uranium into the country -- successfully, multiple times! -- and they don't face any consequences. If the media gets a pass, but this citizen doesn't (particularly because he was very clear upfront about his intentions, and didn't put anybody in danger), I think that's a problem.

Keith | 21-Oct-2003 1:03am est | http://keithdevens.com/ | #3124

Erik (http://ehummel.net) wrote:

Actually Keith, I think that letter was sent on Sept. 15th where his last of the 6 or 8 flights was on the 14th... therefore he didn't let them know ahead of time.

Think of what would have happened if he had gotten caught... this whole "hero" concept of yours is dependent on the fact that he pulled it off... if he was caught the first time, he would have been sent to jail, why should he not go because he actually accomplished it.

Kids that hack major corporations and the FBI and such to let them know their security sucks do not get off, they go to jail (if they are old enough)

Personally, I think you have to give him some punishment (like the minimum the law allows) since this case has gotten so much national airtime... otherwise you will have hundreds of other people who are trying to do "point out weaknesses", and at that point it becomes a scary situation... the public at large has to be shown that regardless of your intentions, breaking the law like that receives a punishment.

∴ Erik | 21-Oct-2003 8:04am est | http://ehummel.net | #3126

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