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WYSIWYG web based HTML editors

Wow, I really should start keeping a list of WYSIWYG web-based HTML editors. James just pointed to the SPAW editor. Looks great, but according to the site it only works with IE.

There's also htmlArea, which is cross browser in its newest (currently alpha) version.

Any others?

Nice, here's a good list. Check out the FCK editor.

There's not too much else out there. htmlArea seems to be the only one that works cross-browser.

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Simon Willison (http://simon.incutio.com/) wrote:

The problem with WYSIWYG editors is that every single one of them, without exception, produces absolute garbage HTML. The Microsoft based ones are the worst for this, but the Mozilla ones are pretty bad too. If you are building a content management system with an eye on reusability content this is a very bad thing - it encourages users to fill up the content database with precisely styled content which will be an absolute nightmare to reformat for alternative delivery systems.

Far more useful would be a "structural" rich text editor which limits users to headers, lists, paragraphs and so on and styles them using the site's default CSS stylesheet. I have yet to see this done anywhere (although the company I work for have a Flash based rich text editor under development which more or less does this).

∴ Simon Willison | 21-Apr-2003 4:09am est | http://simon.incutio.com/ | #1849

James (http://www.ordinary-life.net) wrote:

Keith, if you build the list, do a search for WYSIWYG at OL, I post about them fairly often.

Simon your right in that most produce garbage markup. That's slowly starting to change though and I keep an eye out for any that have good CSS options.

∴ James | 21-Apr-2003 11:17am est | http://www.ordinary-life.net | #1851

Keith (http://www.keithdevens.com/) wrote:

If you are building a content management system with an eye on reusability content this is a very bad thing - it encourages users to fill up the content database with precisely styled content which will be an absolute nightmare to reformat for alternative delivery systems.

That's precisely why StructuredText is central to my CMS. Smiley Even your comments are ST! Smiley

But, for a quick CMS with a few pages, a WYSIWYG HTML editor would be a nice thing.

Keith | 21-Apr-2003 5:12pm est | http://www.keithdevens.com/ | #1853

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