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RSS reader jubilation!!

I think I've finally found it. An RSS reader I like!! What a relief!

Via Bill Kearny's weblog at Syndic8.com, check out NewsDesk. I've installed it, and I'm switching to it right now!

Great features:

  • Freaking categories! Thank you! With drag and drop even!
  • It works and is fast
  • Imports and exports every format you need, OCS and OPML
  • Searching - oh man!
    • When you search, it filters all your feeds based on your search terms, and when you click on a feed it only shows you those items that match the search term.
  • It has an inline browser like Syndirella. In fact, it's based on .NET too.
  • It's got a three-paned interface like you'd expect. However, it works like I always thought an RSS aggregator should work. If you click on the feed name itself on the left, in the right two panes it shows the list of posts on top, and in the bottom pane it immediately shows a summary of all posts for that feed. Then if you click on a feed in the top list it shows that individual post.
  • It integrates heavily with NewsIsFree. Not something I need, but it's nice.
  • You can drag a url to it to add a feed. It has lots of features like that - it even supports the click-a-button-on-a-web-page-and-have-it-invoke-your-rss-reader feature like AmphetaDesk and Radio have.
  • It has lots of system tray features. Again, not something I need, but it seems to work really well.
  • It comes with an RSS to e-mail thing that can e-mail you new headlines! Freaking awesome, but I haven't tried it yet.
  • It's fast! I don't expect to have any of the horrible memory problems that I've consistently had with Syndirella.

It's just really really awesome.

Now for some nit-picky things.

  • Comes with an icky default background color. It's like a puke brown/olive color (See, this is how small my issues are) But you can change it easily.
  • I'd like a modification of the summary of all posts for the feed feature I mentioned above. I'd like it to at least have an option to show only the unread posts for that feed, rather than all of them.
  • I'd like to have unread posts show up in bold, rather than just have an "unread" marker next to a post (which also happens to be a few pixels too close to the text of the post title for my comfort).
  • When you first import a feed (from an OPML file, for instance), the "Get New Headlines" option is greyed out for that feed for some reason. I don't know if that's also the case when you add a new feed, in addition to when you import it. It takes a restart of the program to fix that.

See how minor my problems are? I'm very pleased. I'll update this if I run into any problems, but for now, I'm very happy. Watch for my Blogroll to be updated directly with the feeds from my OPML file, now that I use an aggregator that has categories.

Also make sure you check out John Abbe's great and comprehensive list of RSS readers.

Ok, one crash, while I was dragging stuff around into different categories. Though, it caught the exception and didn't seem to have a problem continuing. I reloaded my feed list just in case... update: yeah, it always crashes if you drag feeds around, and let your mouse hover over another feed so that it loads the contents of the feed into the right panes. But it's always able to recover from the exceptions. I'll have to e-mail the author...

Hey, and it doesn't leave crap bogus referrers!

Some other features I want:

  • I'd like to have it be able to use my system default browser when opening an external browser.
  • I'd like it to open the website for the feed when double clicking on a feed in the lefthand tree.
  • The parser isn't as forgiving as Syndirella's is. One of the error messages on a broken feed is the following: "Invalid byte was found at byte index 2569." It seems that you should be able to replace that byte with a space and try parsing again, repeating as necessary.
  • The list of feeds on the left seems like it's more "spaced out" than a normal explorer view is. With a lot of feeds, I'd like it if I can fit more feeds on a screen somehow. Don't know if that's possible. However, the categories and alphabetization make up for that in spades because it's much easier to check whether a feed has new posts because it is where you expect it.
  • There's a filter to show either "all headlines" or only feeds that have new posts within the last 15 minutes, hour, all the way up to 72 hours. I'd like that to have an option that just shows all feeds with any unread posts.
  • I'd like to be able to right click on a post in the top-right hand pane and get an option to copy that post's permalink to the clipboard. Syndirella has this, and it's convenient (except where the feed doesn't have permalinks to its own posts, but rather to a link in the post.
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david@wildgrape.net (http://www.wildgrape.net) wrote:

Consider me emailed Smiley

You gave it a thorough test drive. I'll get to work on remedying the problems you found. Just curious, what color did you choose for your background?

Dave

∴ david@wildgrape.net | 4-Apr-2003 5:49am est | http://www.wildgrape.net | #1747

Keith (http://www.keithdevens.com/) wrote:

Haha, white Smiley

Keith | 4-Apr-2003 1:33pm est | http://www.keithdevens.com/ | #1749

david@wildgrape.net (http://www.wildgrape.net) wrote:

Keith,

Try "View | Hide Read Headlines".

Dave

You wrote: 'There's a filter to show either "all headlines" or only feeds that have new posts within the last 15 minutes, hour, all the way up to 72 hours. I'd like that to have an option that just shows all feeds with any unread posts.'

Dave

∴ david@wildgrape.net | 4-Apr-2003 2:28pm est | http://www.wildgrape.net | #1751

Keith (http://www.keithdevens.com/) wrote:

Oops, there you go. Smiley Thanks.

Keep in mind that this is separate from the only-show-new-posts feature in the summary that I still want Smiley winking

Keith | 4-Apr-2003 2:33pm est | http://www.keithdevens.com/ | #1752

david@wildgrape.net (http://www.wildgrape.net) wrote:

When you "Hide Read Headlines" NewsDesk will only show you channels with unread headlines.

Isn't that the feature you're looking for?

Dave

∴ david@wildgrape.net | 4-Apr-2003 6:56pm est | http://www.wildgrape.net | #1753

Keith (http://www.keithdevens.com/) wrote:

THe "summary" I'm talking about is what appears in the lower-right pane after you click on a feed in the left pane. It's what appears before you click on an individual post. I'd like an option to have that only display new posts. Right now, it always displays all posts, regardless of whether they've been read or not. Know what I mean?

Keith | 4-Apr-2003 7:14pm est | http://www.keithdevens.com/ | #1754

Keith (http://www.keithdevens.com/) wrote:

One more feature I'd like (Syndirella also has this), is to have a link to the post in the summary view. So, just like when you double click on the post title in the top-right pane and it opens the post in the internal browser, I'd like it if the title of the link (for instance) in the lower-left pane was a link to the post too.

Keith | 4-Apr-2003 8:26pm est | http://www.keithdevens.com/ | #1755

david@wildgrape.net (http://www.wildgrape.net) wrote:

Okay, I understand. Let me see what I can do. Thanks!

∴ david@wildgrape.net | 5-Apr-2003 3:28pm est | http://www.wildgrape.net | #1760

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