Keith Devens .com

As an "ultra-religious" Hasidic jew I can tell you most definitely that these freaks do NOT speak for even a small minority of us. Don't be fooled by them....

Oh, I fully understand that they're a "fringe" group. But they do make interesting arguments... unfortunately, they don't seem to have much of a summary of their position available... it takes some work to understand their position.

BTW, as a Christian (and a Jew), I'm a Zionist all the way. I'd like to see Israel expand rather than shrink as it's been doing.

Good to hear. I was worried you might have thought they had some kind of constituency.

I probably know what you mean, but...
"Cristian - and a Jew" i wonder how that's possible since they are 2 very different religions? Remember Jews are not a race but a religion...

Well, Jesus was Jewish, most all the original followers of Jesus were Jewish, all the apostles were Jewish, all the writers of the New Testament (except I think Luke who is supposed to have been a Jewish convert) were Jewish, etc. Christianity is a Jewish religion and the followers of Jesus continued to worship in Jewish synagogues for decades until the rest of the Jews kicked them out.

Also, "Judaism" is a religion, but being a Jew has always been a combination of an ethnic identity (i.e. race) and a religion. That's why Jews are the sons of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, that's why it's traditionally considered important that in the case of a mixed marriage, the mother must be Jewish for the child to be considered a Jew by birth, that's why the twelve tribes of Israel corresponded to Jacob's twelve sons, etc.

When I call myself both a Christian and a Jew, I mean that I'm a son of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob both physically and "spiritually". In other words, I'm a Jew by birth, and I worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I believe Jesus was and is the messiah promised throughout the Old Testament, and that believing in him is the most Jewish thing you can do. So that's why I see no contradiction in calling myself both a Christian and a Jew, even though what's called Judaism today is very different from Christianity.